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Post by King Of Hearts on Feb 23, 2007 20:41:45 GMT -7
Hello All, My sons and I have been watching alot of the videos,we love them ;D.It is hard to tell from the vids but it looks like a lot of builders raise the left wheel(viewed as if you were driving the car)is there a reason for this or is it just coincidence? My son is sure that there is some good explanation for it but we couldn't figure it out.I told him it was like Santa Claus,its called Derby Magic .Please help us figure this out . KOH
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Post by Hillbilly Kustoms on Feb 23, 2007 23:19:52 GMT -7
I always raise the left front, don't know why exactly. I just always have so I figure, why reinvent the wheel . . . ;D
I am curious about this question as well. Be interesting to find out some other opinions.
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Post by JOKER on Feb 23, 2007 23:26:36 GMT -7
The answer to this question has always been determined by lane guide condition.......always rub on smoothest side. With the advent of the aluminum track - this choice usually becomes unnecessary - take your pick.
.........and believe me - the PDDR track is as smooth as glass - feel confident about either side being the raised wheel
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Post by Quillen Racing on Feb 23, 2007 23:36:09 GMT -7
I always raise the drivers side wheel, I'm not sure why, other than maybe because I'm right handed... Kinda like the wrist-watch thing i suppose. I do agree with Joker though, I think if you have a good smooth track, it really doesn't matter.
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Post by Axiom Paradox on Feb 23, 2007 23:44:51 GMT -7
Hello All, My sons and I have been watching alot of the videos,we love them ;D.It is hard to tell from the vids but it looks like a lot of builders raise the left wheel(viewed as if you were driving the car)is there a reason for this or is it just coincidence? My son is sure that there is some good explanation for it but we couldn't figure it out.I told him it was like Santa Claus,its called Derby Magic .Please help us figure this out . KOH It has to do with the Coriolis effect, in the Northern hemisphere you would raise the the left wheel. Southern hemisphere it would be the right. However, if you were racing at the Equator you would need to raise the left REAR wheel during Summer months. Of course you would switch to right REAR at Winter time. During a Leap year or months that end in the letter "Q" you of course must add a 5th wheel ..........................
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Post by Hillbilly Kustoms on Feb 23, 2007 23:46:51 GMT -7
Yeah, the smooth track makes sense. Our pack track (hah, a poet in the crowd) is a Paintedosi that hasn't really been taken care of. I've got it at my house currently and am giving it some love in exchange for the opportunity to dial in the new car. When we raced a couple weeks ago the middle track literally was launching cars an inch in the air. We stopped the race and I shimmed the seam a bit and that got it under control but it still could use a good filing and whatnot.
I'm stoked that PDDR has a great track and it's maintained. Our cars may not know how to react. I'm sure its gonna take a couple months to get the tuning dialed in for it.
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Post by docb on Feb 24, 2007 6:05:05 GMT -7
I always raise the front left. No good reason....
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Post by F.A.S.T Racing on Feb 24, 2007 12:01:36 GMT -7
Hello All, My sons and I have been watching alot of the videos,we love them ;D.It is hard to tell from the vids but it looks like a lot of builders raise the left wheel(viewed as if you were driving the car)is there a reason for this or is it just coincidence? My son is sure that there is some good explanation for it but we couldn't figure it out.I told him it was like Santa Claus,its called Derby Magic .Please help us figure this out . KOH It has to do with the Coriolis effect, in the Northern hemisphere you would raise the the left wheel. Southern hemisphere it would be the right. However, if you were racing at the Equator you would need to raise the left REAR wheel during Summer months. Of course you would switch to right REAR at Winter time. During a Leap year or months that end in the letter "Q" you of course must add a 5th wheel .......................... SAY WHAT ??[/font][/color] As Ricky Ricardo would say: " Axiom,jew got some 'splainin to dew......." [/color]
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Post by alineperformance on Feb 24, 2007 12:13:43 GMT -7
It's like with dogs, some lift the left, some the right, the rest just squat. Each will get the job done. Like has already been said, the most important is to let the dominant wheel do the guiding and the floater is along for looks only.
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Post by mrdeb on Feb 24, 2007 20:04:17 GMT -7
My question is WHY a front wheel? If the front wheels guide the car down the track than the back wheels just follow. Raising a back wheel would Any body try this method??
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Post by Hillbilly Kustoms on Feb 24, 2007 20:12:06 GMT -7
The back wheels carry the majority of the mass and weight, putting all of that load on a single wheel causes a lot of heat and friction. At least that's what I tell myself, I could be experiencing the coriolis effect perhaps. Besides, I thought Hemisphere was a great Rush album and I love listening to it while I sand Pine in the evenings.
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Post by King Of Hearts on Feb 24, 2007 20:37:22 GMT -7
My question is WHY a front wheel? If the front wheels guide the car down the track than the back wheels just follow. Raising a back wheel would Any body try this method?? With 80 percent or more of the weight on the rear of the car I don't think it would be possible.Unless maybe you offset all the weight to one side,it is hard enough to get 4 oz spread out over 2 wheels let alone one . KOH
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Post by JOKER on Feb 24, 2007 23:28:29 GMT -7
My question is WHY a front wheel? If the front wheels guide the car down the track than the back wheels just follow. Raising a back wheel would Any body try this method?? The fastest 3-wheel RH cars have well over 4 oz of weight packed into the rear of the car. That is why the rear wheels touching the rail is taboo (more weight = more braking action). The DFW is already spinning & has the least amount of weight on it, therefore minimal energy loss is experienced by it rubbing the rail. The raised wheel has to be spun up every time it would touch the rail which would result in a greater energy loss.........it is only there because the rules say you need 4 wheels.
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Post by mrdeb on Feb 25, 2007 11:21:30 GMT -7
the rules say 4 wheels. how about 3 wheels mounted on 3 corners of car and 4th wheel mounted on top of car , like a spare tire?? no problem with spin up or having 4th wheel hitting rail-- just a thought - kinda stretching the rules to the max.
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Post by Crabb-e-cat on Feb 25, 2007 15:40:05 GMT -7
I always raise the drivers side wheel, I'm not sure why, other than maybe because I'm right handed... Kinda like the wrist-watch thing i suppose. I'm hardly an expert, but that makes sense. I'm a lefty and I always have a tendency to raise the front right (passenger's side) wheel.
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