Post by blockhead on Feb 3, 2010 13:47:58 GMT -7
First and foremost i must say hello,Im new to the boards but bit by the hobby.
Have been lurking around alot of web sites and this one is by far the best in every way.
I need to hear what you guys would do in my situation.My son won den and pack last year placed second in district and now he is the target lol.The other dads are even giving a hard time so we need to step it up this year(hopefully they are just messing with hin)but i do enjoy the time and passion he puts into this something other than video games.2010Pinewood Derby Race Off
Rules and Regulations
These are the 2010 Pinewood Derby Rules and Regulations for the Race Off to be held on These rules are basically the same as the 2009 race and closely match the newly revised Council rules. This is the only set of rules that will be used at the Pinewood Derby Race Off. NO CARS MAY BE USED FROM PRIOR YEARS. These rules supersede
the rules that were provided in the Pinewood Derby kit and all past years rules.
.
Inspection: Each car must pass inspection by the Official Inspectors before it may compete. The Inspectors have the right to disqualify cars which do not meet these specifications. If your car does not meet these specifications, it will not be permitted to run at the Pinewood
Derby Race. The fact that a car was allowed to compete at your Pack’s race is irrelevant. Please do not disappoint a Scout by showing up with a car that cannot and will not be run. Once a car is accepted by the inspectors at Check-In, no challenges or additional inspections will be performed. (If you don’t like the job that the inspectors are doing, please volunteer to help out for the next year’s event.).
The inspection process will inspect the following areas:
1. Material: All cars must be made from the official Pinewood Derby car kit from this year. If you buy it on the Internet, it is almost certainly NOT official BSA, even if they’ve put the logo on it.
2. Width: The overall width of the car shall not exceed 2 ¾ inches. Minimum width between wheels (on the same axle) shall not be less than 1-3/4 inches. The car body can be narrower than 1-3/4 inches, but the wheels must be a minimum of 1-3/4 inches wide so the car will straddle the track.
3. Length: The overall length of the car shall not exceed 7 inches. The center of the front bumper must be the
furthest point forward on the car with the front bumper center being no more than ¼” higher than the
undercarriage clearance of the car.
4. Height: The overall height of the car shall not exceed 4 ½ inches.
5. Axle Location: All cars must use the slots in the original block of wood for axle placement. No changes in axle distance or drilling of axle holes in the side of the car with a drill press will be allowed. Axle distance is 4-3/8 inches from the center of the front axle to the center of the back axle. Slot depth may not be altered.
6. Undercarriage Clearance: The underside of the car should not be built down (this includes additional weights). A clearance of 3/8" should be maintained. Please try to recess all weights under the car.
7. Weight: The weight of the car shall not exceed 5.0 ounces, as weighed on the scale(s) that will be used at
the District Pinewood Derby. No loose or liquid materials of any kind are permitted in or on the car. The car may be hollowed out and built up to the maximum weight by the addition of wood, metal, plastic, glue, etc., provided it is securely built into the body.
8. Wheels/Axles: Only wheels/axles that come in the official Pinewood Derby kit will be accepted. Wheel
bearings, washers, bushings, decals, hubcaps and painting of wheels are prohibited. The car shall not ride on any type of springs. Colored or other replacement wheels purchased at the Scout Shop are also acceptable. Wheels purchased from the Internet, even if they have “BSA” on them are NOT acceptable. The distance between the front and rear axles (wheelbase) shall be 4 ¼ to 4 3/8 inches (the same distance that the block is cut from the factory). All 4 wheels need to be mounted straight on the vehicle. The wheel’s flat surface needs to be touching the ground while the car is in motion. All four wheels must touch the ground. No solid axles (PineCar brand or similar) will be allowed. Only axles as provided with the Official
Pinewood derby kit will be allowed (4 nails, 1 per wheel). Axle shape and dimensions may not be altered. Burr marks may be removed and axles may be lightly sanded and/or polished.
Surface imperfections and mold casting marks may be removed with light sanding and/or polishing, but
wheels may not be altered in any other way, including holes drilled in the side, tread width narrowed, or the
inside surface of the wheel carved out. Tread (indicators) marks on the outside edge of the wheel must be
clearly visible on all 4 wheels. A wheel CANNOT be tapered to a sharp edge or radius (See picture,
below).
9. Graphite or other dry type lubricants will be the only lubricants allowed. No other types will be permitted. Lubrication must be done prior to official inspection only. PLEASE LUBRICATE THE FRICTION POINTS, NOT THE OUTSIDE OF THE WHEEL.
10. Shape: The center of the front bumper must be the furthest point forward on the car with the front bumper center being no more than ¼” higher than the undercarriage clearance of the car. No part of the car may extend forward of the starting pin. The front of the car must not have a notch, as pictured. Pointed nosed cars are hard to start. We will do our best.
11. Details: Details such as the steering wheel, driver, decals, painting, and interior detail are permissible as
long as these details do not exceed the maximum length, width, height, and weight specifications.
12. Disqualification: The official Pinewood Derby Committee has the right to disqualify any car that comes up with a different method to give an unfair advantage in this race, violating the spirit of the Pinewood Derby.
13. Any empty lane(s) will be filled with a “Pace Car” so that all lanes are filled for every run down the track.
14. Scoring: Every car will run the same number of times on each lane of its assigned track. The finishing
positions will be awarded based on the lowest total time for the car after all passes down the track. In the
highly unlikely event that there is a tie in cumulative times, (we measure to the 0.001 second), all cars that
are tied for a position will draw a lane and will make one pass down that lane. The position that they finish
will be used to break the tie.
15. Judges’ determinations as to race winners are final.
What would you do with these rules we have 2 weeks im thinkin a 4 wheel rail runner
By the way i ordered the block ,pure stockers and axles thanks for having us.
Have been lurking around alot of web sites and this one is by far the best in every way.
I need to hear what you guys would do in my situation.My son won den and pack last year placed second in district and now he is the target lol.The other dads are even giving a hard time so we need to step it up this year(hopefully they are just messing with hin)but i do enjoy the time and passion he puts into this something other than video games.2010Pinewood Derby Race Off
Rules and Regulations
These are the 2010 Pinewood Derby Rules and Regulations for the Race Off to be held on These rules are basically the same as the 2009 race and closely match the newly revised Council rules. This is the only set of rules that will be used at the Pinewood Derby Race Off. NO CARS MAY BE USED FROM PRIOR YEARS. These rules supersede
the rules that were provided in the Pinewood Derby kit and all past years rules.
.
Inspection: Each car must pass inspection by the Official Inspectors before it may compete. The Inspectors have the right to disqualify cars which do not meet these specifications. If your car does not meet these specifications, it will not be permitted to run at the Pinewood
Derby Race. The fact that a car was allowed to compete at your Pack’s race is irrelevant. Please do not disappoint a Scout by showing up with a car that cannot and will not be run. Once a car is accepted by the inspectors at Check-In, no challenges or additional inspections will be performed. (If you don’t like the job that the inspectors are doing, please volunteer to help out for the next year’s event.).
The inspection process will inspect the following areas:
1. Material: All cars must be made from the official Pinewood Derby car kit from this year. If you buy it on the Internet, it is almost certainly NOT official BSA, even if they’ve put the logo on it.
2. Width: The overall width of the car shall not exceed 2 ¾ inches. Minimum width between wheels (on the same axle) shall not be less than 1-3/4 inches. The car body can be narrower than 1-3/4 inches, but the wheels must be a minimum of 1-3/4 inches wide so the car will straddle the track.
3. Length: The overall length of the car shall not exceed 7 inches. The center of the front bumper must be the
furthest point forward on the car with the front bumper center being no more than ¼” higher than the
undercarriage clearance of the car.
4. Height: The overall height of the car shall not exceed 4 ½ inches.
5. Axle Location: All cars must use the slots in the original block of wood for axle placement. No changes in axle distance or drilling of axle holes in the side of the car with a drill press will be allowed. Axle distance is 4-3/8 inches from the center of the front axle to the center of the back axle. Slot depth may not be altered.
6. Undercarriage Clearance: The underside of the car should not be built down (this includes additional weights). A clearance of 3/8" should be maintained. Please try to recess all weights under the car.
7. Weight: The weight of the car shall not exceed 5.0 ounces, as weighed on the scale(s) that will be used at
the District Pinewood Derby. No loose or liquid materials of any kind are permitted in or on the car. The car may be hollowed out and built up to the maximum weight by the addition of wood, metal, plastic, glue, etc., provided it is securely built into the body.
8. Wheels/Axles: Only wheels/axles that come in the official Pinewood Derby kit will be accepted. Wheel
bearings, washers, bushings, decals, hubcaps and painting of wheels are prohibited. The car shall not ride on any type of springs. Colored or other replacement wheels purchased at the Scout Shop are also acceptable. Wheels purchased from the Internet, even if they have “BSA” on them are NOT acceptable. The distance between the front and rear axles (wheelbase) shall be 4 ¼ to 4 3/8 inches (the same distance that the block is cut from the factory). All 4 wheels need to be mounted straight on the vehicle. The wheel’s flat surface needs to be touching the ground while the car is in motion. All four wheels must touch the ground. No solid axles (PineCar brand or similar) will be allowed. Only axles as provided with the Official
Pinewood derby kit will be allowed (4 nails, 1 per wheel). Axle shape and dimensions may not be altered. Burr marks may be removed and axles may be lightly sanded and/or polished.
Surface imperfections and mold casting marks may be removed with light sanding and/or polishing, but
wheels may not be altered in any other way, including holes drilled in the side, tread width narrowed, or the
inside surface of the wheel carved out. Tread (indicators) marks on the outside edge of the wheel must be
clearly visible on all 4 wheels. A wheel CANNOT be tapered to a sharp edge or radius (See picture,
below).
9. Graphite or other dry type lubricants will be the only lubricants allowed. No other types will be permitted. Lubrication must be done prior to official inspection only. PLEASE LUBRICATE THE FRICTION POINTS, NOT THE OUTSIDE OF THE WHEEL.
10. Shape: The center of the front bumper must be the furthest point forward on the car with the front bumper center being no more than ¼” higher than the undercarriage clearance of the car. No part of the car may extend forward of the starting pin. The front of the car must not have a notch, as pictured. Pointed nosed cars are hard to start. We will do our best.
11. Details: Details such as the steering wheel, driver, decals, painting, and interior detail are permissible as
long as these details do not exceed the maximum length, width, height, and weight specifications.
12. Disqualification: The official Pinewood Derby Committee has the right to disqualify any car that comes up with a different method to give an unfair advantage in this race, violating the spirit of the Pinewood Derby.
13. Any empty lane(s) will be filled with a “Pace Car” so that all lanes are filled for every run down the track.
14. Scoring: Every car will run the same number of times on each lane of its assigned track. The finishing
positions will be awarded based on the lowest total time for the car after all passes down the track. In the
highly unlikely event that there is a tie in cumulative times, (we measure to the 0.001 second), all cars that
are tied for a position will draw a lane and will make one pass down that lane. The position that they finish
will be used to break the tie.
15. Judges’ determinations as to race winners are final.
What would you do with these rules we have 2 weeks im thinkin a 4 wheel rail runner
By the way i ordered the block ,pure stockers and axles thanks for having us.