Has or will BSA release new wheels for next year?

[Nightmare]

Has anyone else heard about BSA releasing a new wheel, new molds, new design, lighter reduced and tapered hub for next year ?

Nightmare

[Burpin Chunks Racing]

seems silly for BSA to do this. they could make their wheels square and because they are BSA, they would have to be used. i hope they dont.

[W Racing]

BSA has partnered with Jewkes Engineering...


All new BSA wheels will be Edge Equipped!!!

[2FAST4U]

May 23, 2009 22:57:00 GMT -7 W Racing said:

BSA has partnered with Jewkes Engineering...


All new BSA wheels will be Edge Equipped!!!

now that would be great...

There has been talk that there is a new wheel out from BSA it is a little shorter and alot lighter. 2.6 grams....

I called bsa national headquarters and they said they did not know anything about these 2.6 gram wheels... I will keep looking for more info... but for now If any builders gets ahold of a wheel that they think bsa put out that is 2.6 grams, then the car will not pass the pure stock rules for this year... you must run the bsa wheels that wiegh in at 3.6 grams. no less than 3.3 grams is possable for a pure stockr.
we at pddr will be checking for these wheels because I have heard that they are avaliable or are on the market, but if they are, they would not be from bsa at this time, so do not get caught with these wheels, you will be Dq'ed... and then moved to the superstock class, racing againsted the needles...


Thank you

Glenn

[speedie4u]

There is a lady, I forget her name now, who is in charge of the bsa pinewood derby stuff. There is a guy also who last I knew was reworking the molds. This was last year, when I was given the heads up about the colored wheels, prior to anyone else knowing.

Then the colored wheels got released, but not the new mold. My quess is there was a bigger delay on the molds being redone.

back then it was conveyed they were suppose to be a better wheel and more performance in mind.

The molds also had to be shipped back to kahoot. As they do the wheels there.

The initial date was june of 2009, but then they released the colored wheels in Dec 2008.

so when I did not see the new wheel mold. I asumed they were putting it on hold for awhile.

We will just have to wait and see what happens.


Certainly by them doing it this way, does cause more of a issue then if they had waited and done it all as once. If in deed we see the new wheel molds this year.

[Fat Daddy]

Apparently Pinewood Extreme is claiming they have these in hand. Only avail in black until current supply of colors drops. What I don't get is how only Pinewood Extreme has them? That makes NO sense at all. If the BSA were doing something like this, knowing there is even a decent sized market segment, wouldn't they have made a bigger deal out of this and tried to get it in the hands of all dealers? Something smells fishy here.

[2FAST4U]

May 26, 2009 10:44:10 GMT -7 Fat Daddy said:

Apparently Pinewood Extreme is claiming they have these in hand. Only avail in black until current supply of colors drops. What I don't get is how only Pinewood Extreme has them? That makes NO sense at all. If the BSA were doing something like this, knowing there is even a decent sized market segment, wouldn't they have made a bigger deal out of this and tried to get it in the hands of all dealers? Something smells fishy here.

yes I know, it does seem fishy...
I have some coming to see if they are real or not...
why would extreme have them and not the bsa dealers?
We will see...

[speedie4u]

What i am gathering is another vendor has gotten some also, but did not know they were getting them, it was a mixed shipment and thats how they noticed it.

[Fat Daddy]

I am going to our local scout shop today. If they have these supposed "new wheels" I will pick up every set they have. For testing, of course

[Fat Daddy]

OK, all old wheels at that scout shop. Going to another tomorrow after work, I'll check in after that.

[2FAST4U]

the new BSA wheels have the mold numbers...

here are some pictures...

Here is how I received them

OK,

I have the new wheels...

they look great...

they weighed in at 2.61 - 2.62

the wheels are all very round...

the wheels spin very true with out a lot of wobble.

they took there time to make the molds round.

I measured the wheels height and they where all around 1.181 - 1.183

the run out of the wheels where about .0015 - .0025 for round...

very good

there where a couple of wheels that had the inner bore that was not round but easily fixed...

the mold numbers are all on the wheels, so far from 1 - 16

I have done some testing...

Here is my take:

most of the weight has been removed at the hub and where it has the official BSA made in USA markings.

the rim part of the wheel is bout .018 thinner...

TESTING

I have test cars that i use to see what works and does not work.

the test car that i used is a pure stock car.
this cars fastest time down the pddr track is 2.978 ave pass 2.83's WITH 3.3 GRAM BSA PURESTOCKR'S FROM JEWKES ENGINEERING...

this test is done with the front Dom wheel not being touch to keep the alignment the same...

right now with the wheels right out of the box with no work done to them mounted on the rear of the car ran a fastest at 2.997 ave 2.999

then I took a the new set of BSA 2.6 gram wheels and made the pure stockr's and edge prep.
the car ran 2.984 fastest and has a ave of 2.985

here is my take on the build of these new BSA wheels.

they are very well made and for any boy and father that builds a car should not have a problem anymore with wobbly wheels this will help the boys that do not do anything to the wheels run great with out trying to true them up.

with the new stock wheels right out of the box on the rear of the car. the car ran very smooth...
the inside hub is coned and basically done for ya.

there could be a little more done on conning to get just that little extra speed though...

the only thing that i did not like about the wheels is the out side hub. they put a double step in it like the inside hub. bad design.

so to get a little more speed you need to cone the outside of the hub. which you get in the edge prep package with the old wheels... this is an easy fix for jewkes engineering.

so even with the lighter 2.6gram wheels I do not think that there is enough weight removed from the outside of the surface to make them much faster than the old BSA wheels that have been worked over.

there are a couple more test that i am running and i will let you know what happens next...

Stay tunned for more info and testing from JE...

thank you

2fast4u / Glenn

[Cecil B. Deluxe]

i have a "no points" car coming with the wheels that some may be using. we will see how the wheels stack up ;D

[Carolina Gravity Sports]

Thanks for the info Glenn. ;D

I'll be glad when I can get my hands on a set, just to see what they will do. I'll be interested in how your car will do Cecil.

[Vodka Racing]

What colors will the new wheels come in?

[speedie4u]

Thanks for the great info !!


speedie