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Post by John Thawley on Jul 14, 2011 8:23:10 GMT -7
I'd like to begin purchasing the necessary tools for a workshop. I've decided in the way of power tools that I'll want a drill press, a belt sander and band saw.
Given I can buy great pre-drilled blanks from ___ or Jewkes, I figure the belt sander and drill press should come first.
My questions relate to how much I need to invest and what should I look for in each. For instance, it appears there are a lot more choices of 4" belt sanders than 1"... and there's a pretty broad variable in cost. I've seen 1" for well under $100. Is this good enough?
Regarding drill presses... again, I see new ones for $150... are they precise enough? Do I want 5 speed or variable speed? Are some more adjustable (accuracy) than others?
Lastly, band saws... what should I be looking for here?
I guess in the end, I don't want to end up with junk that doesn't get the job done or is creating problems. I'd also like to know I can sell the stuff should my interest wane in the future. But lastly, I don't want to break the bank.
Any advice would be appreciated.
JT
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Post by resophonic1 on Jul 14, 2011 8:47:13 GMT -7
These are the tools I've collected is the last 4 years since my son started Scouts:
JE Block Proxxon Drill Press Ryobi 12" Bench Top Drill Press Ryobi 4" Belt Sander With 6" Side Disc Ryobi Bench Top Band Saw Harbor Freight Spindle Sander Dremel 300 Series Electric hand drill with variable speed
I use all the above items each time I build a car. They are all must haves for me. The only thing I would like to add in the future is a nice router. For right now my dremel gets the job done with no problems. Hope this info helps!
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Post by John Thawley on Jul 14, 2011 10:52:49 GMT -7
These are the tools I've collected is the last 4 years since my son started Scouts: JE Block Proxxon Drill Press Ryobi 12" Bench Top Drill Press Ryobi 4" Belt Sander With 6" Side Disc Ryobi Bench Top Band Saw Harbor Freight Spindle Sander Dremel 300 Series Electric hand drill with variable speed I use all the above items each time I build a car. They are all must haves for me. The only thing I would like to add in the future is a nice router. For right now my dremel gets the job done with no problems. Hope this info helps! Obviously I've seen the Ryobi options at Home Depot. And... the price is pretty attractive. Any buyer remorse? Are they durable enough and accurate enough to get the job(s) done right? I've got the Dremel 4000 and an electric hand drill... etc. It's the bench tools I need in order to get into "production" mode. LOL JT
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Post by resophonic1 on Jul 14, 2011 11:29:42 GMT -7
These are the tools I've collected is the last 4 years since my son started Scouts: JE Block Proxxon Drill Press Ryobi 12" Bench Top Drill Press Ryobi 4" Belt Sander With 6" Side Disc Ryobi Bench Top Band Saw Harbor Freight Spindle Sander Dremel 300 Series Electric hand drill with variable speed I use all the above items each time I build a car. They are all must haves for me. The only thing I would like to add in the future is a nice router. For right now my dremel gets the job done with no problems. Hope this info helps! Obviously I've seen the Ryobi options at Home Depot. And... the price is pretty attractive. Any buyer remorse? Are they durable enough and accurate enough to get the job(s) done right? I've got the Dremel 4000 and an electric hand drill... etc. It's the bench tools I need in order to get into "production" mode. LOL JT All are durable and I have no remorse. I only use the proxxon for drilling axle holes, I love that drill press. 5 Kids has the tools in the order that I would buy them also.
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Post by John Thawley on Jul 14, 2011 12:16:22 GMT -7
Obviously I've seen the Ryobi options at Home Depot. And... the price is pretty attractive. Any buyer remorse? Are they durable enough and accurate enough to get the job(s) done right? I've got the Dremel 4000 and an electric hand drill... etc. It's the bench tools I need in order to get into "production" mode. LOL JT All are durable and I have no remorse. I only use the proxxon for drilling axle holes, I love that drill press. 5 Kids has the tools in the order that I would buy them also. So if you only had one drill press it would be the Proxxon? Really appreciate the feedback... I hate buying things twice. JT
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Post by resophonic1 on Jul 14, 2011 12:29:49 GMT -7
All are durable and I have no remorse. I only use the proxxon for drilling axle holes, I love that drill press. 5 Kids has the tools in the order that I would buy them also. So if you only had one drill press it would be the Proxxon? Really appreciate the feedback... I hate buying things twice. JT Yes if I woke up tomorrow and I could only have one drill press it would be the proxxon.
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Post by NinjaRabbi on Jul 14, 2011 13:16:48 GMT -7
Gotta put a Best Track and timer in the mix somewhere...
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Post by John Thawley on Jul 14, 2011 17:42:18 GMT -7
Gotta put a Best Track and timer in the mix somewhere... I've already committed to the one listed here. Just waiting for him to answer my PM and arrange for shipping. We've built six cars since March. The first was a genuine cub scout car... we were clueless but won every trip down the hill and every award available. Our second effort was much improved... and tied for first at the District Championships. Our 3rd, 4th and 5th efforts never raced... though are gorgeous cars. Our 6th car tied for first in the Council championships taking second on average time 3/100 behind the winner. It was a 3.0x car. We've never built a car and had the luxury or running it or testing it before a race. I'm well aware that we aren't going to get any faster without a track, a Jewkes Block and drill press. These two never raced. THAW_ 104446 by John Thawley, on Flickr
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Post by johna745 on Jul 14, 2011 19:54:29 GMT -7
If you don't already have it,I would add MBs oil process dvd to the list of must have's. Looks like it's still on sale.
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Post by John Thawley on Jul 14, 2011 20:05:28 GMT -7
If you don't already have it,I would add MBs oil process dvd to the list of must have's. Looks like it's still on sale. LOL - Ordered about 6 hours ago.
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Post by resophonic1 on Jul 14, 2011 20:06:44 GMT -7
If you don't already have it,I would add MBs oil process dvd to the list of must have's. Looks like it's still on sale. LOL - Ordered about 6 hours ago. You will not regret that purchase at all!
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Post by Wood Butcher Racing on Sept 22, 2011 6:48:02 GMT -7
I see the last post is from July so I assume you already have equiped your shop. If I were on time with my response I would ask you if pine cars are the only thing you would use these tools for. Also what does your budget allow? I have used a ryobi drill press I purchased at HD 10 years ago ($100) and it has served me faithfully. It is nowhere near the accuracy of the proxxon, but the proxxon can't do all the things I need a DP for with derby cars only one of them. My shop is a woodworking shop first and I find my benchtop model is too small for a lot of things I use it for (it limits what I can do). So for me, I can't justify the expense of the proxxon compared to the other things on my "to purchase" list. If it's derby cars only, and the budget allows, get a proxxon, and the block. These 2 tools are the foundation for a competetive car. Add in a belt sander (with a bed at least 8" long), coping saw, a good steady work surface with a wood vice, and several hand clamps. Add a band saw later. Most of the cars raced here are planks anyway, and you'd be suprised what you can do with some 60 grit paper and a belt sander. Watch those fingers ... Another word of advice on purchasing tools. Much like photography, buying cheap tools doesn't always save you money. Cheap tools are just that. There are some exceptions but I think you know what I mean. A Minolta is nice but it's no Hasslblad ...
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Post by DNA RACING on Sept 23, 2011 4:18:47 GMT -7
thats 5 minutes you will never get back...... ;D
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Post by Wood Butcher Racing on Sept 23, 2011 9:39:39 GMT -7
Woodbutcher, haven't heard from you in awhile, good to see you still come around from time to time. Thanks, Freak ! Throughout the year I am doing different things based on the Seasons. All Summer it's way too hot to work in my shop. Same in the Winter, except I push through for the thrill of pine cars! Spring and Fall are great times to be out there butcherin' wood! I see you've been busy ... congrats on smashing the barrier! I wonder if Mr. Thawly has his shop set up? Any entries, pics?
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