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Post by 2FAST4U on Nov 1, 2011 12:22:46 GMT -7
John, Who is trying to make it ugly here, you or me? Was I the one dragging other people into an issue that they were not a part of - I think not. Where in my post did I try to get anyone to leave? I asked a very specific question. My point was and is very specific. Mr. Casmier, Yes, i did see how many of you guys were trashing me and pddr on a blog. so do not try to deni it... it is ok, it is nothing new, just a different day with different people trying to bring down pddr and jewkes engineerings speed parts... David, John and I know the behind the scenes... and what goes on...
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Post by psycaz on Nov 1, 2011 12:37:14 GMT -7
John, Who is trying to make it ugly here, you or me? Was I the one dragging other people into an issue that they were not a part of - I think not. Where in my post did I try to get anyone to leave? I asked a very specific question. My point was and is very specific. Mr. Casmier, Yes, i did see how many of you guys were trashing me and pddr on a blog. so do not try to deni it... it is ok, it is nothing knew, just a different day with different people trying to bring down pddr and jewkes engineerings speed parts... David, John and I know the behind the scenes... and what goes on... Glenn, Are we even talking about the same thing anymore? I posted in this thread about specific things. Nothing about your products, you, or PDDR in general.
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Post by psycaz on Nov 1, 2011 12:44:29 GMT -7
Glenn,
If you want me to apologize for saying it was nice of you to offer the prizes for the Pinks slip race..
I apologize (shrugs shoulders)
That's all I have said about you in this thread. I said nothing malicious towards you.
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Post by psycaz on Nov 1, 2011 13:18:31 GMT -7
Glenn, If you want me to apologize for saying it was nice of you to offer the prizes for the Pinks slip race.. I apologize (shrugs shoulders) That's all I have said about you in this thread. I said nothing malicious towards you. Nobody is looking for anything from you Rich. We have seen enough. If the others don't want to be drug into it then tell the others to STAY OUT OF IT. And I do mean in their sneaky little undercover way. I don't have to tell people the behind the scenes. They already have found out on their own from SEEING both sides and coming to their own conclusion. I guess that's easy enough for them to do since they didn't post in this thread anyway. Can't stay out of it anymore than not even posting in the thread in the first place.
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Post by psycaz on Nov 1, 2011 13:22:33 GMT -7
Better yet, there is nothing for you to defend. There hasn't been anything said that was not true. You mean outside of guys posting under aliases in this thread and starting trouble.
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Post by psycaz on Nov 1, 2011 13:31:02 GMT -7
You mean outside of guys posting under aliases in this thread and starting trouble. You keep proving my point. There sure are a lot of aliases in this thread. Oh my, I didn't think about it but maybe we aren't even talking to Rich. Community login. There are? Sure it's John posting? ;D You get the last word ;D I am the Walrus Coo coo kachoo!!!
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Post by psycaz on Nov 2, 2011 7:00:06 GMT -7
Derby Freak,
Your post is honestly the reason I posted.
Say something enough it becomes reality.
As I said before, please show me where anyone has posted in this thread under an alias, PLEASE!
You are now blaming guys from PWDR for posting under aliases to cause trouble. There isn't anyone under an alias in this thread. Which was and is my point. Guys are being blamed for something that it is easy as pie to see that they haven't done. Yet it continues.
You have been here from April of this year, I have been around a bit longer. Let me clue you in on something, GUYS here create aliases and use them to build the sense of community. They have logged on in the past with them as started issues just to give the community someone to rally about. See Dark Tower.
I am well aware of some of the things being relayed that the guys from PWDR are accused of doing - please feel free to post some proof that they did it and I will stand hand in hand with you and tell them to shut their pie holes.
I don't know of anyone logging in to DNA's chat. Have proof that is was a PWDR guy and not someone else?
What about the latest supposed dig at the Block at PWDR. You know, the one John kept making an issue out of - yeah, I had someone mention it to me.
If you would like, I will bump that thread to the top of the forum. Please feel free to look through it and find me a post where ANYONE is knocking the product. NO ONE IS! They talk about using different pins to get different cants. That is NOT a knock on the product. Does someone say they use something else they have access to - YES. Again, that is NOT a knock on the product.
But it seems that fact never made it into the conversation did it. Just that PWDR was knocking the Block again.
So yeah, I post when it's blatantly obvious that PWDR guys are being blamed for stuff they haven't done.
I don't know who is logging into the chat to talk trash - it isn't me. Got any proof that it's a PWDR guy?
Why would they do it - reread your post. That's why. Why would they knock their own product where guys could see it - because the guys who are going to see it will never believe it and rally behind them.
It's been done before....
If John or Glenn or David wishes to ban me they can.
You note that I only throw fuel on the fire. Yet you fail to notice I only posted AFTER the perception began to take hold that guys from PWDR posted in this thread under aliases.
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Post by psycaz on Nov 2, 2011 7:00:56 GMT -7
Sorry John,
I was going to let you have the last word as you requested. I was called out specifically, so I answered.
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Post by psycaz on Nov 2, 2011 7:12:17 GMT -7
DF, Can you even point to a post on here recently that was done under an alias that is even remotely negative about PDDR, John, Glenn? ?
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Post by psycaz on Nov 2, 2011 7:59:20 GMT -7
Rich, the underground deception tactics have been exposed. The same crap has been going on for at least 4 years by you same fools or your elders. It was only a matter of time before more people caught on to it. One or some of your boys went way too far. You finally got opened up. Done deal. Once again, please quit trying to tear down PDDR. Freaky hit the nail on the head. Your mom is calling, time to go home. Where? No one can answer my original question can they? Where has ANYONE posted in this thread under an alias? How is that particular, very direct question trying to tear down PDDR? You can make all the snide, funny in your mind comments you want. Facts are facts. Show proof of anyone posting in that (DNA'S) chat under an alias from pwdr.. AND THAT ISN'T WHAT I POSTED ON RIGINALLY IN THE FIRST PLACE. You are the one who created the latest issue about the Block. Anyone can go look at the thread for themselves and see what was posted. AND THAT WASN'T WHAT I POSTED ON ORIGINALLY IN THIS THREAD... Twist it any way you want, but facts are facts. No one posted in this thread under an alias, from PWDR or anywhere else. Your the one who feels the need to blame everything on PWDR and if there isn't anything, create something to blame them for.
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Post by psycaz on Nov 2, 2011 8:20:29 GMT -7
Rich, the underground deception tactics have been exposed. The same crap has been going on for at least 4 years by you same fools or your elders. It was only a matter of time before more people caught on to it. One or some of your boys went way too far. You finally got opened up. Done deal. Once again, please quit trying to tear down PDDR. Freaky hit the nail on the head. Your mom is calling, time to go home. Ok John, The undergroung stuff has been exposed how exactly? PROOF? The only proof that has ever been presented is when you were exposed for being someone who posted under aliases to rally the troops. How about you... Got PROOF that Evo or Mood posted in this thread under an alias. You credit them with aliases here, were any posts made under those aliases? Got Proof? Got Proof that they posted here at all under those aliases?
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Post by psycaz on Nov 2, 2011 8:42:32 GMT -7
Rich, you have now earned the name Johnnie Cochrane. Ladies and gentlemen. What you are seeing is an attempt to get me to say something to get this board shut down too. Richie Cochran, GO AWAY. How is asking you to point to a single post from an alias in this thread from those guys an attempt to get this board shut down? It was a simple question. Now you are trying to blame me for something I am not attempting to do. Let me try it this way John to keep the board open ... General question... Would you say that the guys who posted in this thread are establish racers posting under there racing names? I don't think answering that would break any ProBoards Terms of Use. For the record, it is the farthest thing from the truth to even hint that I am trying to get this board shutdown. Let alone doing it. I thought I was having an honest debate on a particular topic. I haven't trashed a single product of Jewkes Engineering. I haven't trashed a single product of John's. How you get I am trying to get the board shutdown is beyond me?
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Post by psycaz on Nov 2, 2011 8:50:36 GMT -7
You know what John, Don't even reply to the prior. Just ask everyone else to not reply calling me out and I will no longer reply to this thread.
I am not trying to get this board shutdown.
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Post by psycaz on Nov 2, 2011 8:55:37 GMT -7
At what? How is that anything bad?
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Post by psycaz on Nov 2, 2011 8:57:49 GMT -7
Do you want me to post asking this question...
Why do you want to not post something here because you think it will get the board shut down, but you want to go over to PWDR and post it.
You are directly saying you want to deliberately get that board shutdown.
Is that better than what I posted?
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